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M23 Derby – Why are Brighton and Crystal Palace Rivals?

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The Crystal Palace and Brighton rivalry which is referred to as the M23 Derby or A23 Derby stretches back to the 1970s. Every time Palace and Brighton play, someone asks the question on Twitter why there is such a heated rivalry when the teams are more than 50 miles apart. Well, that’s what we’re going to cover today, why are Brighton and Crystal Palace rivals?

History of the Brighton and Palace rivalry

The Palace and Brighton rivalry was born when the teams were managed by former Tottenham Hotspur players Terry Venables (Palace) and Alan Mullery (Brighton). In the season of 1976-77, the teams faced each other five times, but it was the second-round replay in the FA Cup at Stamford Bridge that really created this rivalry.

Brighton was awarded a penalty and Brian Horton converted it. But, the referee said that it had to be retaken as a Brighton player had encroached on the penalty box. Horton missed the retake though and Mullery was furious at the decision.

He got a red card and as he was walking off got a barrage of abuse from the Palace fans, and his reaction at the time was to swear back at them. There is this iconic image of him giving the two fingers to the Palace fans.

Since then, every match between the two fans has been deemed a rivalry even if they aren’t local rivals. The fact that Brighton hadn’t made it to the Premier League before 2017 meant that these rivalries would only occur in cup games or when Palace was in the Championship.

Also, many Palace fans head down to Brighton for weekends away and it’s the same for Brighton fans heading to London, so even though they’re not close like with most rivalries there is a connection between the two.

Brighton also didn’t really have a rivalry with any team back in those days so after this Cup event in that season, Palace became the perfect rival.

Here’s the story of that match told by Alan Mullery himself. It’s a great tale that has created some amazing moments in the following years between the two sides.

Brighton Official Nickname Change

Before 1977, Brighton and Hove Albion FC were referred to as the Dolphins, it was due to the rivalry with Crystal Palace that this changed to the Seagulls.

This was only five years after Palace changed their nickname to the Eagles. The Crystal Palace fans chanting ‘Eagles Eagles’ was much better than Brighton fans chanting Dolphins…so as Brighton is on the sea and packed with seagulls this name suited better, is easier to chant, and sounds similar to Eagles. This meant the Brighton fans could respond with ‘Seagulls’ when the famous ‘Eagles’ chant was started by Palace fans.

This is another part of the now historic rivalry as Palace fans find it ridiculous that they’ve been copied and to a less inferior bird. Who would win a fight between an eagle and seagull? Our money is on the eagle! 

Who has come out on top the most?

Brighton is currently leading the all-time head-to-head results by two wins and this dates back to 1920.

  • Palace wins – 38
  • Brighton wins – 40
  • Draws – 28

This data is from 11v11.com, which you can find here.

Players that played for both teams

Over the years there have been some players that have played for both Crystal Palace and Brighton. The most notable was probably Glenn Murray who got promoted to the Premier League with both sides.

The current state of the rivalry

Both teams have had above-average results in the first half of the season and don’t look to be involved in the relegation battle like in previous seasons. But, both Palace and Brighton will be aiming for the highest possible finishes, and getting the win over the other main rival will be influential, or either team that manages it.

Palace fans and players were furious at the last-minute equaliser from Brighton back in the first match between these sides in the first match of the season in September 2021. The players will be up for this game after that and Viera believes the team has matured since then.

See our prediction for the next Palace vs Brighton.

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Former Eagles Who Thrived Around a Poker Table

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Malian winger Jimmy Kébé in old Crystal Palace kit with gac.com as the sponsor

Footballers have a short career when you think about it. Elite players, who’ve been driven toward a goal their entire lives retire and then…what? Gone are the days when they’d buy a local pub and serve out their days as the landlord; Premiership stars of today have the bankroll to buy pub chains outright. As a result, footballers turn up in some unlikely places in their post-playing careers.

Former Palace midfielder Mathieu Flamini founded a biochemical company in 2008, manufacturing an acid that he hopes could one day replace many oil-based products. If his hand pays off, his net worth could be in the billions. Other wagers are more in line with playing careers. Every team has a card school on the coach, and several players have taken it more seriously after the boots have been swapped for dress shoes. Many athletes play poker during and after their careers. Swimmer Michael Phelps and ex-NBA star Paul Pierce have both appeared at the World Series Of Poker Finals in Vegas, whilst Manchester United’s Ronaldo is a poker ambassador, and he hasn’t even finished playing yet.

Let’s have a look at some Eagles who fancy themselves as (card) sharks.

Jimmy Kébé

The Malian winger struggled to establish himself at Selhurst Park after his cult hero status at Reading. Signed by Ian Holloway in August 2013, he made only six appearances before Holloway resigned, was replaced by Tony Pulis, and dropped in the pecking order below Yannick Bolasie.

If he couldn’t fire crosses for Marouane Chamakh though, he’s done well in his old teammate’s home country- Kébé is now a pro poker player and achieved his biggest win of nearly $100,000 (£87,000) in a World Series Of Poker event in Marrakech in 2019.

Tomas Brolin

If one was inclined to be a bit mean, they could say that Brolin’s Palace career meant he wasn’t swapping the green pitch for the blue felt; more the treatment table (and the dinner table) for the card table. An unlucky 13 games yielded no goals in the red and blue, and Brolin played only two more games after leaving Palace in 1998; for his brother Hakan’s Hudiksvall ABK in the Swedish fourth tier – once as a goalie!

After finishing up as Attilio Lombardo’s assistant, Brolin signed an ambassadorial deal with a poker firm and ended up involved in the game for around a decade. He competed regularly on the European Poker Tour and cashed in 38th out of an 800-strong field in the 2008 Grand Final in Monaco.

Anthony Gardner

Nottingham’s been a lucky town for the big centre-half. In 2011 Dougie Freedman – formerly of Forest – made him an integral part of the side, and he was shortlisted for POTY, only losing out to defensive partner Jonathan Parr. He also scored the biggest win of his poker career there, triumphing over pros like Ben Vinson to take the £20,200 top prize.

Despite an impressive campaign on loan to the Eagles in 2010/11, leading to a permanent move the next season, Gardner decided to move on to Sheffield Wednesday for 2012/13. That side – containing full internationals like Chris Kirkland, Liam Palmer, and Chris Maguire (as well as Jay Bothroyd on loan for six months and a young Ross Barkley for two) – perhaps underachieved, only securing Championship status on the final day.

Meanwhile, we all know what Palace managed that season – and if not, it’s documented in When Eagles Dare. Maybe Anthony called his own bluff.

Clinton Morrison

102 goals for Crystal Palace and nine for Ireland tells you everything you need to know about Clinton being an ace in the hole. He made his debut against Wednesday, coming on for Neil Shipperley in the 82nd minute and netting the injury-time winner in the final game of the doomed 1997/98 Premier League campaign.

He kept a similarly cool head this January when sports site Sporf challenged him and Gabby Agbonlahor to test their poker faces against each other with spicy forfeits on the menu. No spoilers here – but if you cast your mind back to this summer’s preseason friendlies with Montpellier and Ipswich Town, you might be able to work out the scoreline. Does he have a future in poker? There might be some copyright issues if he tries to launch with Clinton Cards

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Wilfried Zaha Imogen Thomas T-Shirt

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Wilfried Zaha in 2013 arriving for Man United medical wearing Imogen Thomas t-shirt

Wilfried Zaha arrived at Old Trafford for his medical with Manchester United wearing an Imogen Thomas T-shirt. In 2011, the newspapers reported that the married man at the time, Ryan Giggs, was having an affair with the Big Brother contestant, Thomas.

It was then in January 2013 that Zaha rocked up for his medical after signing from Crystal Palace in the now infamous Imogen Thomas t-shirt.

Young Wilfried Zaha wearing Imogen Thomas t-shirt
Infamous Imogen Thomas T-Shirt

The Ivorian winger, who had just signed for Manchester United, was apparently unaware of the connotations of the shirt, which features a scantily-clad Thomas on the front as you can see in the image (below or above). However, he was quickly briefed about who she was…

Giggs is reported to have told Zaha that Imogen Thomas is “a very famous person” in England and that he should be “careful” about what he wears in public. Let’s just say that it wasn’t a great start for him at his new club.

Who is Imogen Thomas?

Imogen Thomas is a model, television personality, and businesswoman from Wales. She is best known for appearing on the reality show Big Brother in 2006.

She rose to fame after appearing on the reality TV show Big Brother and then moved to London to start a career in modelling. She also hosted T4 on the UK’s Channel 4 before exploding in the papers when it was revealed that married footballer Ryan Giggs had been having an affair with her.

This led to a legal battle between Thomas and Giggs, which resulted in Thomas being granted an injunction against Giggs. The story made headlines around the world and brought Imogen Thomas into the public spotlight.

In 2015, she started her own swimwear brand, Chasing Summer. She’s had two children which she now cares for and hasn’t been in the public eye as much as before.

How long did Wilfried Zaha play for Manchester United?

After this silly start for Wilfried Zaha at Manchester United, he didn’t last that long at the club. He signed for Manchester United in 2013 for £10.58 million. He spent two years at Old Trafford and during this time only made four first-team appearances, whilst also being loaned out to Cardiff and Crystal Palace.

He then returned permanently to Palace whilst on his season-long loan with his boyhood club. The fee was in the region of £3 million and supposedly rose to £6 million.

Since returning to Selhurst Park, Zaha has established himself as one of the best players in the Premier League and easily became one of the Palace’s most loved players. He’s matured a lot since he rejoined Palace and now he’s even getting married to his fiance Paige Bannister who he has been with since 2016.

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Glad All Over Crystal Palace Lyrics

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Glad All Over by The Dave Clark Five is sung at every Crystal Palace home game. It’s even more synonymous with the club than the Crystal Palace cheerleaders. But why have Palace fans sung this song for years?

Well, the reason dates back to February 1968 when The Dave Clark Five, the band behind the song, first performed it at Selhurst Park. From then on it’s become Crystal Palace’s anthem, even if it isn’t a football-related chant.

The 1990 Crystal Palace team even did a cover of Glad All Over when they reached the final of the FA Cup. Keep reading until the end if you want to see an old video of the team performing it on TV, you won’t be disappointed!

Here are the full Glad All Over lyrics so you can sing along at home or the next time you’re at a home match.

Glad All Over Lyrics

You say that you love me (say you love me)
All of the time (All of the time)
You say that you need me (Say you need me)
You’ll always be mine (Always be mine)

I’m feelin’ glad all over
Yes, I’m glad all over
Baby, I’m glad all over
So glad you’re mine

I’ll make you happy (Make you happy)
You’ll never be blue (Never be blue)
You’ll have no sorrow (Have no sorrow)
‘Cause I’ll always be true (Always be true)

And I’m feelin’ glad all over
Yes, I’m glad all over
Baby, I’m glad all over
So glad you’re mine

Other girls may try to take me away (Take me away)
But you know, it’s by your side I will stay, I-I’ll stay
Our love will last, now (Our love will last)
‘Til the end of time (End of time)

Because this love, now (Because this love)
Is only yours and mine (Yours and mine)
And I’m feelin’ glad all over
Yes, I’m glad all over

Baby, I’m glad all over
So glad you’re mine
Other girls may try to take me away (Take me away)
But you know, it’s by your side I will stay. I-I’ll stay

Our love will last, now (Our love will last)
Til the end of time (End of time)
Because this love, now (Because this love)
Is only yours and mine (Yours and mine)

And I’m feelin’ glad all over
Yes, I’m glad all over
Baby, I’m a-glad all over
So glad you’re mine

I’m glad that you’re mine, now
So glad you’re mine
I’m so glad you’re mine, now
Whoa whoa whoa whoa, whoa whoa

Crystal Palace 1990 Squad Singing Glad All Over

If you want to see Alan Pardew, Mark Bright, and the rest of the Crystal Palace team singing Glad All Over on TV before the FA Cup final in 1990 then watch the video below. They’re 

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